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2025: Liz Hear … “The Pilgrims” played LaCave in 1969. As Fate would have it … I found this recording … that I forgot I made.  Luckily, the tape didn’t break … and I got to play it over the phone … for Pilgrim drummer, Ron.<\/p>\n

Harkai was absolutely delighted to hear himself … and Dennis … doin’ Diddley. That is to say … as in the song titled, “Hey, Bo Diddley”. Little did we know when we hung up with Harkai that night … it would be the last time we talked to him. Ronnie passed away in December of 2022. I’d like to think that … straight away … Harkai joined his fellow bandmates … the other two Pilgrim players … Bassist Pete Dragas and Guitarist Glenn Schwartz. As Heavenly hosts … they can handle any request from us. Calling on Angels … is something I believe in doing. As for the last surviving Pilgrim? It’s 2023 and Bandleader Dennis’ still doin’ musical duty down here … on Earth. Thank goodness. <\/p>\n

Back to ’bout that 1969 cassette recording. It has some special songs … done for this special reunion … at that special venue. What was LaCave? It was at a then-popular place to play in Cleveland..There Bandleader Dennis was together again … that night with his Pilgrims bandmates … bassist Pete Dragas, drummer Ron Harkai, guitarist Glenn Schwartz, (the last three of Blessed memory). But to repeat<\/em> … it’s 2023 and Bandleader Dennis is still doin’ Diddley … and much more, too. <\/em><\/p>\n

Who were The Pilgrims? In the mid ’60s the regional band became popular enough … to garner the attention of some special A&R types. But what really rocked them was when they were invited to visit HITSVILLE USA. There they received an offer to sign with them. They seemed aptly named … for the time and the place. Why? The contract would have made them the “FIRST WHITE BAND SIGNED TO MOTOWN”. It wasn\u2019t meant to be \u2026 for musical duty was trumped by military duty. How? A draft notice was served on Glenn … the Air Force got Ronnie \u2026 and Dragas was deferred. Bandleader Dennis enlisted in the Ohio National Guard and went on to Officer Candidate School. Mention of OCS is made here … because Second Lieutenant Chandler caught some musical duty that … almost made up … for missing out … (on that MOTOWN contract noted above, pardon the pun). More is written about the Army and DC on our Face Book Page … in our Album titled, “Army Basic Training \/ OCS”. <\/p>\n

Back to about catching their 1969 performance on cassette. That iconic LaCave venue was located in what typically was known back in the day as \u201ca changing neighborhood\u201d \u2026 (meaning: white flight). But for the more enlightened … that Cleveland club consistently drew many diverse music lovers … from the many diverse ‘hoods.
\nSome interesting info follows … Fairfax is the ‘hood that is home to \u201cThe First African-American Theatre in the Country\u201d … KARAMU. The name is Swahili for “gathering”. It certainly was … and still is … a place for gathering. For the Uniformed … go to …  https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Karamu_House<\/a><\/p>\n

Plus one can read how Musician-Dennis got to “gather” there … performing as Actor-Dennis doing the role of “Guitar Man” in the 2000 Karamu production of the play titled “Spunk”. This website has the page titled <\/p>\n

Written by the Harlem Folklorist Nora Heale Hurston. Who?  For the Uninformed … go to …  https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zora_Neale_Hurston<\/a><\/p>\n

More info follows for those who like the type … of humor that was honed … from the ‘hoods. Meaning those creative-types that came to work their craft in the cities (read: ‘hoods). That’s entertainment, (as the song goes). That’s how it evolved. From  Vaudeville. What’s that? For the Uninformed … go to … https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vaudeville<\/a><\/p>\n

Well, now for a little bit of info on … The Weill side … of the family (of Marge Weill Chandler … Dennis’ dear late mother).Those members of that branch of the family tree included an acrobatic dancing act … Max & Maddy Weill. Plus some Marxes mixed in. Make that Groucho Marx … (as in Marx Brothers). Who? For the Uninformed … go to … https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marx_Brothers<\/a><\/p>\n

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\n\"\"Another Marx relative … about whom stories were told … included Uncle Henry Marx. He and his wife owned and operated Marx Dry Cleaners on Wade Park at E. 86th Street. There was talk of some traveling troubadours, whose clothing he ended up caring for, too. Those were the days of performers like Sophie Tucker, Martha Raye, Rudy Vall\u00e9e, George Jessel, Don Ameche and Mickey Katz, to name just a few. .
\n\"\"Many Vaudevillians and entertainers became extended-family aka mishpocha. They\u2019d bring their duds along when they came, as they say in show biz, \u201cout ta da house\u201d. Plus perhaps for a Piano Salon? (Oh, to go back in time to then \u2026 to be a fly on the wall … or … a carpetbaggin\u2019 flea.)
\nSpecial, too … were the tales they heard … of how the WEILLS would come to Cleveland to … \u201cHit the Hippodrome\u201d … or … to \u201cPlay the Palace\u201d. Those were world-renowned venues which they would do … for weeks at a time. Thus there was always time to visit the relatives … and their mispocha, too. Especially when they got to go free to the theatre … sit in the best side boxes in the house … laden with toys and trinkets, too.
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\nOh, what was said about what they did for fun, in their time off! Apparently they would … \u201cLet the Good Times Roll” … at all the artistic havens of the day … like the Hermit Club , the Beau Arts Club and Karamu.
\nPerhaps that is why Dennis was drawn to … that ever-entertaining-area, (pardon the pun). Chameleon Chandler caught a couple of various and sundry gigs … including the ones at LaCave. Place got you curious? Interested enough to do research? Time travel … go to … https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/105th_and_Eucli<\/a><\/p>\n

Time travel some more … go to … \u201cInvisible Soul\u201d. Author Carlo Wolff administers that page. He has made available ads and articles of the many acts from that ‘hood.
\n(Makes we wish I had taken more pics. And grateful I got these tracks. I will post them … when I figure out how to … stay tuned!)<\/p>\n

2012  Speaking of capturing Den & Glenn Together Again \u2026 Look up on You Tube \u2026 to see and hear \u2026 the guys. The billing was \u201cThe Schwartz Brothers\u201d band with Dennis guesting, so to speak. (Hence the D & G together again theme). The group consisted of Glenn\u2019s brother Gene Schwartz aka Geno and Paul O\u2019Brien on drums. DC, GGS, GS playing together again … was special indeed, to say the least. Those reunion gigs seemed to take everyone to “A Higher Place”. Just ask those followers of SB band … OR … you can ask the following club owners of the places where they played … Major Hoopples, Mike\u2019s Barn owner Michael Yates, Beachland Ballroom & Tavern owner Cindy Barber and Producer Nick Amster.
\nSpeaking of “Asking Amster”. We can’t. Sadly, he passed in April of 2020. Footnote: Dennis would always run into dear Nick at Solon’s Get Go Gas Station. After an Amster Catchup … Nick would rush out to retrieve from the trunk of his car… numerous CD recordings NA made … to give DC. They were usually of their mutual bandmate … dear Robert Lockwood. Den returned home from one of those top-the-tank-trips … and I suggested some homework for his next visit with Nick. “Take him up on his offer … to make copies of those Beachland Ballroom \/ Tavern gigs”. I dubbed them, “Den & Glenn Together Again” and and Nick thought that a good title. Den did see Producer Nick often … but would forget to ask him for the dubs. Then one day, I saw Nick inside Solon’s Market District … I was about to ask him … but I saw he was busy bagging his groceries. I thought to myself, “Oh, I’ll catch him another time”. That was the last I saw of him. It’s almost a year since Nick Amster passed. But, his memory is a Blessing. Remember … Life is short … Time is fleeting. Capture all you can on tape … in pics … and post ’em.
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\nAgain \u2026 go to You Tube and search Glenn Schwartz and Dennis Chandler. One can see and hear what a great ride it was. I like to think Producer Amster’s … helping Glenn Guitar … Rock on in Heaven … where there’s no dubbing necessary.
\nAnd the beat will go on for Den \u2026 maybe on \u2026 Zoom. Yeah, once I teach myself how to \u2026 Zoom. Oh, Zoom \u2026 Zoom was a term I used in the past for posts of Den\u2019s classic car cruisin\u2019 gigs. Like when he and Glenn got together again \u2026 at the Diner \u2026 (but that\u2019s a story for another time).
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Bears repeating … Cleveland musician-Dennis and a group of his hometown friends formed a band and called themselves, \u201cThe Pilgrims”. Perhaps the name was fortuitous for they seemed aptly named. Playing around \u2026 those places and in those times \u2026 in Detroit\u2019s musical history? It was, “Priceless”, Dennis said. <\/p>\n

First about the band members in \u201cThe Pilgrims\u201d: There was the virtuoso guitarist Glenn Schwartz, with whom guitarist-Dennis loved sharing lead solos. Plus pianist-Dennis doubled on organ. Any rhythm chords he added, he said, \u201cwas pure pleasure\u201d … for the band had an already pulsating rhythm section \u2026 what with Mr. Metronome aka Ron Harkai on drums…  and the late Pete Dragas on bass. Together they were able to give, what mentor BB King aka Poppa BB … often described to \u201cadopted-son-Dennis\u201d \u2026 as that feeling of \u201cWhat brung ya to the dance\u201d. He answered, “Music that included \u2026 a walkin\u2019 bass with a shufflin\u2019 beat!\u201d
\nSo it was not surprising … once heard … the boys in the band were asked to back up many early rock and rollers. Which was what promoter Kermit Price predicted. Who? An owner of Ohio clubs i.e., “The Note” in Ruggles Beach, Rathskeller, Erie Inn in Sandusky, etc. Price’s connections helped seal some deals … with certain Detroit dudes who had to do … with HITSVILLE USA and MOTOWN RECORDS.
\nThe Pilgrims became the houseband for the legendary powerhouse Radio Station \u201cCKLW\u201d. In support of the station\u2019s musical format … they entertained at their many various live events and promotions. Musician-Dennis had even more opportunity to play for those diverse audiences. Plus pianist-Dennis also became arranger and accompanist at many after-parties, too. House parties of fond memory … included the ones at the residences of Rev. Cecil Franklin (Aretha\u2019s father) and Hank Ballard of “Hank Ballard & The Midnighters”, to name just two. (Talk \u2018bout \u201cStand and deliver\u201d!)<\/p>\n

\"\"But, Dennis’ “Baptism-by-fire\u201d was via some of the originators of rock … the BLUESMASTERS themselves. Hard-learned but lovingly-taught lessons included the age-old Oral Tradition of \u201cGood, good. Alrighty, now try it this way\u201d. Those teachings … brought home \u2026 from Dennis\u2019 days of playing around the Detroit\/ Windsor area… showered him with inspiration. He wanted to learn as much as he could … whenever he would … come across someone who should offer. And they did offer … often … and he learned. (Boy, did Den learn!)   <\/p>\n

“I Got a Booking Way Cross Town”, (to reference a song title). Managing some of the band’s bookings was CKLW Program Director Dave Shaffer. He had them backing up many groups LIVE. To list just a few here … The Supremes, Four Tops, Temptations, The Isley Brothers, Mary Wells, Shirley Ellis, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Little Eva, Bobby Vee, Gary \u201cU.S.\u201d Bonds, Ronnie & The Daytonas, Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels, Bobby Rydell, Bobbie Martin, Del Shannon, Dobie Gray, Freddie Cannon, Chuck Berry, Little Richard. By the way, Detroit is where Dennis first began his fellowship with popular onair personality Larry Morrow (aka “The Duker\u201d on CKLW). When Larry later came to Cleveland … Dennis did more than a couple of music-related “Morrow Happenin’s” (including a Morrow marriage).<\/p>\n

Those early days in Detroit made for some of Dennis\u2019 fondest musical memories. Bandleader Chandler will be writing about them in the book he finally<\/em> has started. It is thanks to the encouragement of Clayton Munsey, President of the Les Paul Society (Face Book Group). He has helped raise our awareness level again … that Life is short and Time is fleeting… so keep writing. Why again? Because THIRTY YEARS AGO … we made a pact to write more. To whom? Only the late, great Steve Allen and talented Jayne Meadows.
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\nThey extracted a promise. How so? Like many of that early television era … we watched their various TV shows … growing up. They came into our respective living rooms … where they seemed to be performing to an audience of just one. We both felt that way. So years later at the 1990 Leukemia Telethon … Steve Allen asked to interview Dennis (the only featured adult survivor). To meet these two cultural iconic characters felt so right. To be in their presence … just like family … was NOT at all intimidating. Even when Steve requested Dennis play the piano (that they were both seated at).
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\nEven when SA commended DC’s ability to improvise. Even when SA told DC, “I envy your versatility”.
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\nEven when SA told DC that he wished he, “could read music”. Dennis exclaimed, “But, you wrote all those songs! To which Steve Allen replied, “Yes, but I can’t read music”. That’s when Dennis said, “I’ll teach you how to read music!” And Steve shot back, “And I’ll teach you how to write a book!” (Allen asked about how he came to be such an enigma … liking and making all the music that he loves?)
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\nSo we returned home to Cleveland … not knowing what Steve had proposed to Dennis … “I’d like to see what you will write” … “God brought you back for a reason!”… “You should be here in L.A.”. Upon returning to normal … Life happened … and we were intimidated by our circumstances (read: medical expenses) Only a … novice … novel writer would let that happen. Well, no more. Truth is stranger than fiction. Now we aspire to be expert … at non-fiction (Lord, don’t test us again). We both will keep our pact. (Hence, I hope Dennis’ book attempts to explain such “enigmatic entertaining tastes”, as I call them). After all … a promise made … will be a promise kept … in this lifetime, yet! Better late than never. To be continued …<\/p>\n

Back to about how we got a copy of the Pilgrims’ regional hit record, \u201cPlymouth Rock” (written by Chandler and Dragas). It was thanks to Paul Hamann of Suma Recoring Studio. Who? The son of Ken Hamann who recorded the band at Hamann’s Cleveland Recording Studio in 1964. FYI: The flip side of that record has the song titled \u201cMaudy” written by John Lee Hooker and arranged by Glenn Schwartz. In 2011, his son Paul Hamann contacted Dennis and became a Face Book Friend. PH found the original master tapes. He asked Dennis would he \u201clike to have a new mix on CD?\u201d So, thanks to the gracious Hamanns, you will be able to enjoy the song for the first time …  or.. for old times. Sadly, in 2017 Paul Hamann succmubed to cancer after battling for years. When you listen to the link above … think about how the Hamanns helped many musicians (like Pilgrims and Outsiders bandmember Dennis)<\/p>\n

Now about where<\/em> the Pilgrims performed … back in those Windsor\/ Detroit days. They played at WALLED LAKE CASINO. THE MICHIGAN THEATRE, THE TWENTY GRAND, THE ROOSTER TAIL, to name just a very few. Plus at COBO HALL … THE PILGRIMS opened for a sold out ROLLING STONES CONCERT.  On a past road trip to Detroit …  we came across one of the many fun places that the Pilgrims played. Sadly, the nightclub called THE GAY HAVEN wasn’t so … for it was shuttered long ago. (This photo’s from the ’70s). 
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\nAnother fun place was MOTOWN. In HITSVILLE USA RECORDING STUDIO A … Dennis watched THE SUPREMES RECORD THE VOCAL TRACKS for what would later become one of their BIGGEST HITS … “Come See About Me”.<\/p>\n

Dennis recalls another unique HITSVILLE session where he witnessed men … with 2x4s STRAPPED TO THEIR FEET … TAPPING OUT RHYTHM TRACKS THAT WERE USED FOR MANY OTHER MOTOWN HITS, too. Not too many years ago Dennis had the pleasure of reminiscing and recalling even more memories … with members of the legendary FUNK BROTHERS. They were down at Cleveland’s AFM Local 4 Union Hall (rehearsing in advance of a concert at the Rock Hall of Fame). Plus more of those memories … of watching music being made at Motown … he shared with one of THE SUPREMES … MARY WILSON. It happened while attending a Rock Hall affair titled, “A Girl Groups Tribute”. Here are some of the photos from that weekend …
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\nBack to the ’60s … Although the pioneering band seemed to have arrived, they did not land one special deal. As mentioned above … a successful studio audition for HITSVILLE\u2019s powers-at-hand brought a dream of an offer. At the same time guitarist GLENN SCHWARTZ missed his swear-in date with a NATIONAL GUARD officer (arranged via ARMY contacts Chandler made serving musical duty for the military). Thus evaporated the band\u2019s \u201cchance at the Big-time\u201d. With those untimely draft notices; A PROMISED CONTRACT FOR THE PILGRIMS \u201cTO BE MOTOWN\u2019S FIRST WHITE GROUP\u201d, WENT UNSIGNED. Speaking of Motown and records…\"PILGRIMS<\/a>
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\nWhere three of the four Pilgrims did land was in the military. But, before disbanding (pun intended) they also served as the studio band on other recordings, too. Since often times session work was just that (read: work), band members rarely recall details.
\nHowever, for Dennis one studio session was made more memorable because he got to incorporate a syncopated guitar riff that BO DIDDLEY taught him. The song? \u201cJUST LIKE ROMEO AND JULIET\u201d by the vocal group called \u201cTHE REFLECTIONS\u201d. Dennis said they were a JOY to work with making music with them onstage (as backup). As a  per-session scale-pay studio musician … he did do tracks for the above-mentioned song. So whenever fans of that HUGE hit share how much they enjoyed it; Dennis gets to recall the fun of doing it. Which is good because he said often times one can\u2019t be sure if the tracks that are recorded are the same tracks on the final mix. That happened a lot back in the day!<\/p>\n

More about THE REFLECTIONS is included here because of the passing of group member John Dean … in March of 2022. Condolences to his family, friends and fans.<\/p>\n

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BASS SINGER JOHN was kind enough to share memories of being on stage together with MUSICIAN DENNIS. The photo on the far left is from one of those times. It shows him and his vocal group “The Reflections” taking a break. It was after a rehearsal. Hence the guys in casual attire. For the stage it was always suits and ties. Well, maybe sometimes … sweaters and ties. You can see that in one of their publicity pics. John and the guys cared about things like presentation.<\/div>\n
The backup band was “The Pilgrims”, CKLW houseband. The place was “The Note\u201d in Ruggles Beach, Ohio. The photographer was Bandleader Chandler. (He who also cares about presentation … of the music. Can you spell … P-E-R-F-E-C-T … P-I-T-C-H. Yes, DC said, “John was … spot on”).<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Again John thoughtfully shared memories … now we want to share knowledge … of him and his guys. Why? It paints a picture of people in a place … a time … that can never be again. Detroit\/ Windsor was also an area of cultural influence on Dennis Chandler<\/span><\/a>. Thanks for the reflections, John.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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For the Youngins …<\/div>\n
Hear The Reflections’ ICONIC hit song “(JUST LIKE) ROMEO AND JULIET” … go to …<\/div>\n
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d1c2zwMcjd0<\/a><\/div>\n
Learn about The Reflections’ DAYS IN DETROIT. How they were WARMLY WELCOMED BY MIXED AUDIENCES … and MUSICIANS. Many made offers to teach them. The group took them up on their generosity. It’s a DETAILED-DOWN-HOME-CASUAL-ON-THE-COUCH-INTERVIEW when host Tom Meros begins talking with Tony and John. BUT BEAR WITH IT … you’ll see SOME LOCATIONS and STILL PHOTOS of the above-mentioned areas. It will also be meaningful for those fans who love the song, the singers and the musicians behind them.<\/div>\n
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NacVr5EMNpU<\/a><\/div>\n
http:\/\/www.classicbands.com\/ReflectionsInterview.html<\/a><\/div>\n
https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Reflections_(Detroit_band)<\/a><\/div>\n
https:\/\/www.wikiwand.com\/en\/The_Reflections_(Detroit_band<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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That band wasn\u2019t the only band he and fellow PILGRIM bandmembers would find themselves \u201calmost making it\u201d with. The next almost-made-it-with-them bands included Cleveland\u2019s TOM KING and THE STARFIRES later known as THE OUTSIDERS. They had the hit record \u201cTIME WON\u2019T LET ME\u201d. Those sessions at KEN HAMANN\u2019S CLEVELAND RECORDING made for some lasting impressions. Or did they? After a falling out, drummer RONALD HARKAI WAS AIR-BRUSHED OFF THE ALBUM COVER. This for him, at the time, must have added insult to injury because it was the drummer\u2019s dad who had paid for that recording session.<\/p>\n

Fellow band members later went on to play in many a diverse band or two\u2026 too numerous to list now. But, briefly, we mention: the virtuoso guitarist Glenn Schwartz was in \u201cThe James Gang\u201d (as was Dennis for a very short stint), then Glenn went with \u201cPacific East & Electric\u201d. Drummer Ronald Harkai was in \u201cTom King & The Starfires\u201d (as was Dennis) then \u201cThe Outsiders\u201d (as was Dennis for a brief time). A bit more detail about the guys follows…  <\/p>\n

Below is courtesy of Nick Blakey. It is an excerpt from liner notes he wrote for his CD titled, “The Schwartz-Fox Blues Crusade featuring Mr. Stress”. BTW: Footnotes and the complete bibliography are are available in the extended liner notes … somewhere online. (Thank you, Nick … for your efforts in support of all the musicians mentioned here, past and present. L.C.)   \"PILGRIMS<\/a>
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\nSonny passed away Sunday, Feb 5, 2017. At that time, I wrote about what a Blessing it was … to hear about the MUSICAL COFFEE KLATCHES these two former band mates had (during Sonny’s time at Menorah Park). Those standing SMOOZE DATES were always up-lifting … no downer meals ala \u201cTuesdays with Morrie\u201d, so to speak.<\/p>\n

How the two rockers re-connected: DC discovered that SG was convalescing from major, major brain surgery … and was moved into one of the homes on the Menorah Campus. It happened that Pianist-Dennis had been performing \u201con campus\u201d since 2000. When DC learned SG was housed right next door from where DC regularly played \u2026 he sought him out. After the initial first reunion, Sonny asked DC to return to see him \u2026 “the next time you’re in the hood\u201d. Dennis did. He found Sonny to be very interested in … whatever music he had just played earlier (at his solo gigs there). Plus SG would always ask about DC’s band (\u201cThe Stratophonics\u201d) … and whatever music Bandleader-Chandler had them play (on their last gig). So it seemed … this form of \u201cmusic therapy\u201d … for Sonny … was what the doctor ordered. It brought back memories … of their days of playing together (in \u201cThe Starfires\u201d & \u201cThe Outsiders\u201d).<\/p>\n

Sonny LOVED to talk about singing. FYI, SG was the lead vocal on that iconic rock hit, \u201cTime Won\u2019t Let Me\u201d … so naturally … he would talk all things vocal, (so to speak … pardon the puns).
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